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Julie Coraccio 0:02
Hey everyone, it is a special edition of Clear Your Clutter inside now, I was interviewed about holiday decluttering an organization and starting right for the new year, so I thought that I’d create a bonus episode. Does your clutter own you? Unclear your clutter inside now, we’ll teach you how to become aware of your clutter, along with action steps to declutter and create the life you desire. Come on, let’s get started. I was interviewed by Mya Johnson on the show right now, which is on alternative Thursdays 1130 to noon, Pacific Standard Time at KW nr.org. So that’s kwmr.org, which is West Morin Community Radio. I’m a huge fan of independent podcasters like myself and independent station, so check them out again. That’s kwmr.org.
Mia Johnson 1:08
Morning you are listening to right now a short and sweet Morning Show coming to you every other Thursday morning from 1130 to noon. I’m your host Mia Johnson and Today, my guest is Julie Coraccio. And Julie is a professional organizer, author, speaker and certified life coach whose focus is recognizing and clearing clutter in folks lives, physical, mental, emotional and spiritual. Lots of clutter around the holidays. And you contacted me about this because I was curious about how to maximize the holidays for folks. So thanks so much for joining Julie Coraccio. Welcome to kW, Omar.
Julie Coraccio 1:49
Thank you. I’m thrilled to be here. Absolutely.
Mia Johnson 1:51
This is my first on zoom on video interview at home. So I’m just it’s so nice to see your face Your smiling face. So where are we reaching you
Julie Coraccio 2:00
today? Julie? in Wheeling, West Virginia,
Mia Johnson 2:03
West Virginia. And what’s the weather like there?
Julie Coraccio 2:06
It is unseasonally warm at 55. We’ve already had snow a few times. We recently this is my hometown where I grew up. And we recently moved back from North Carolina. So I’m thrilled to see the snow not everyone else’s. But I am
Mia Johnson 2:20
nice. We’re seas unseasonably warm here too, but probably a different season. So you are a professional in addressing clutter of all types. How would you describe your work in just a sentence?
Julie Coraccio 2:34
I support people in clearing clutter in all areas of their lives so they can create the life that they desire and share their gifts with the world.
Mia Johnson 2:43
And what led you to this?
Julie Coraccio 2:45
Well, when I first started my business, I was really focused on organization and I called my business healing through organization. And meanwhile, was interviewing people doing a show. And then I had this client who said, Hey, can we just talk? And I was like, It’s okay. It’s, you know, you’re dying. And what I realized after that session was it was more important to clear the clutter, because technically, you can organize clutter, but it was more important to clear it, and then worry about the organization later.
Mia Johnson 3:17
Absolutely. It seems like there’s a lot of different fields of thinking about that. And I’d love to get into that later. But I’m curious, I feel like everyone has different messages about clutter, about cleanliness about organizing from an early age. Do you remember any messages when you were young about how to keep your stuff? And how to organize it? No, I
Julie Coraccio 3:39
was an uptight kid. And so my parents were a little bit disorganized. And it really bothered me being late for anything. And so that’s because my mom was disorganized, couldn’t find the car keys, you know, whatever, whatever, got the schedule. And so then that made me organize, like, I don’t want to be like, I don’t be late for practice. I don’t wanna get in trouble. So that’s really where it started for me.
Mia Johnson 4:00
Did you have the organized pencil case?
Julie Coraccio 4:03
I do not. I do not.
Mia Johnson 4:06
So you are a life coach, professional organizer, speaker and author. Can you talk a little bit about the life coaching aspect?
Julie Coraccio 4:15
Sure. So again, that kind of came with that client. And I found that that I talked about a moment ago, and I found that working with people coaching automatically came up because I wanted to get what’s underneath the clutter. You know, what’s it really about? And for most of the people I work with, there’s some kind of connection to it. So what because I want to people clear the clutter, then move forward. I don’t want it to come back a year or two and if we get to the root cause then we can release it and move forward.
Mia Johnson 4:45
So you work with different forms of clutter. What would you say are the major factors that contribute to physical clutter?
Julie Coraccio 4:50
Fear of needing something someday that is really huge for people. Scarcity, believing that they won’t have abundance come back They let it go, will something be there to fill the place filling a void of something that’s not physical, and it’s trying to meet a need? So I’d say off the top of my head those three.
Mia Johnson 5:11
Absolutely. And people hear a lot about hoarders, which is not what you’re talking about. You’re talking about the everyday clutter, correct?
Julie Coraccio 5:19
Absolutely. Yeah, everyday clutter, which most of us have.
Mia Johnson 5:23
Absolutely. And have you had clients where you said, You know what, this is something bigger. And this is, this is a bigger problem.
Julie Coraccio 5:32
I had that happen only once. Because what I typically do is a 15 minute consultation to kind of get an idea. And I trust my instincts, very important to me to trust my intuition. And so one person always happened once lied to me over the phone. And the first thing out of his mouth is I’m not a hoarder. Because on the website, it says, if you have 18 inches from the wall, and I only have 17. So you know, what are you going to do? So the good news was, we had a session, I found she had needed something desperately. And we found it and I said, you know, you need someone with a little more experience and who focuses on that. So pretty bad, pretty good batting average.
Mia Johnson 6:07
So what’s the sequence when you talk to someone about physical clutter? What’s next?
Julie Coraccio 6:12
And then if we talk about physical clutter, then I have them fill out an assessment, because I like to ask them questions and see what their responses are. Because usually, that’s going to tell me a lot. And then I can hit the ground running, have a plan, and then we meet and then go forward from there.
Mia Johnson 6:30
And what’s the most fun part of the process for you, in terms of physical clutter work,
Julie Coraccio 6:36
seeing relief on clients, feet faces, seeing their aha moments is even greater. When they make that connection? I’ll share a really quick story. I had someone who had this giant stack of papers and like, oh, what’s up with this? And she said, Oh, those are clippings that I’m sending to people, no recipes, or sauna magazine. And so as we talked, I said, Okay, let’s dig a little bit deeper on this. And she made the connection. If I don’t send these clippings and keep in touch with people, they aren’t going to love me. As soon as she voiced that she knew that was false, pitched into the recycling bin, but she can’t you know, people have the wisdom within I see my job is pulling that out, and helping them find their own wisdom.
Mia Johnson 7:16
And you’ve talked about decluttering first and then getting organized. Can you talk about the importance of the sequence?
Julie Coraccio 7:23
Well, I believe that it’s important to, to declutter, because if you get organized and solve the stuff, you still have clutter, in my view, I mean, if you have a bunch of stuff and are overwhelmed, you know, think for a moment, if you’re in a space, it’s super cluttered, and then one that isn’t, you know, you can literally feel that difference. So even if it’s organized and a bunch of stuff, and let’s not forget, you have to maintain that you have to keep that up. That takes time, money and effort. I don’t know about you, but I’m trying to simplify my life and have less to do.
Mia Johnson 7:56
I’m talking to Julie Coraccio. About clutter. And what about the holidays? Can you talk about what happens in people’s lives around the holidays? And how to avoid some of the pitfalls when it comes to clutter?
Julie Coraccio 8:09
Sure. So I think one of the biggest things that I would say is that people become overwhelmed during the holidays, you know, we have this manufactured, oh, the holidays are this lovely, great time. And that’s not true for everyone. And so what I think is really important at the beginning of the holidays, what matters most to you do a little planning. What do you love about this time in the season? What have you done that you hate that you’ve done out of obligation? What is it that you’d like to try? So that kind of sets the stage, we focus on what we really want really like to check out and what we don’t want to do. And for me everything kind of flows from there. Because you know, it can really easily create holiday clutter. If we have a lot of stuff. We I know people who have 5000 different places to hide their gifts, and then forget it, and where did I put it and then discover that they already brought it, you know, and that spending time and money. If you get really emotional around the holidays and don’t have a plan, like I know I when I get upset, I eat emotionally, so I have to be really aware and pay attention for things like that. So I think it really starts with the planning and that is the first step that you can do that’s going to support you to have happy holidays.
Mia Johnson 9:23
And in terms of planning, are you a paper list type of person? Is it more of a brainstorm, what do you encourage folks to do that really you find is the most effective?
Julie Coraccio 9:33
It really is gonna depend on them individually. I’m old school. I like to write it down. I get a thrill to cross off everything off my list. I like to plan I have a big old planner here. But you know, people who are more technology savvy might want to use some apps to get organized. They’re great apps like to organize your gift giving or your budget or whatever. I’m not less of a fan of hybrid because if you’ve got a paper planner and I’ve got something on the computer and I’ve got an app, then things tend to fall through the cracks and you lose something,
Mia Johnson 10:02
then you have to organize your organizational way. And it starts to be a big old vortex.
Julie Coraccio 10:08
Yes. And something gets lost or sucked in.
Mia Johnson 10:12
How do you deal with the concept that I’m not talking for personal experience, except actually I am people who like to organize, and it becomes all they’re doing, and they’re not doing the work, if that makes sense. Or they’re not. Yeah, like, they’re like, focused on the organizing, but they’re not actually utilizing the things that they’re organizing, like, how can you make it really, really practical? Like focusing on the practical?
Julie Coraccio 10:39
Yeah, no, that’s a great question. So I think that’s is just as unhealthy if you’re spending all your time organizing, and then you’re not living life, we’re here to live life to have joy and do all that. And so that’s where you kind of have to relax your standards a little bit. You know, I always think that funny when Everybody Loves Raymond, and the mom has a couch covered in plastic, and then she’s like, you know, I’m flexible. I can take off the plastic, and the guys are like, Oh, my gosh, we’re actually sitting on the couch is this, okay? And so you know, don’t want to be that uptight about everything. And so do it. So it works enough? Can you find what you need when you need it? When you walk into your house? Can you feel peace? Because if everything super organized, I wouldn’t feel I don’t have labels for everything. Not everything’s color coordinated. And that’s not a slam against people who are but again, that goes back to maintaining everything. Can you find what you need? Do you have peace? Those are the things to concentrate on. And you know, what good enough is good enough. It’s not about perfection. And one of the things that frustrates me is, I see these shows, and it’s like, Hey, if you are a big Hollywood person and have a million dollar budget Have at it, but that’s not realistic for most of us.
Mia Johnson 11:47
So talking about other folks who do organization or have techniques, do you have any inspiration? Do you have any fields that you really like a book that really helped you find your niche,
Julie Coraccio 11:57
I really liked Fung Shui. And I let really like, you know, I don’t own a lot of shoes. I spend money on personal growth. So that’s really where I’ve taken a lot of my stuff. I haven’t read any of Marie Kondo stuff, but I saw an interview with her and she talked about gratitude and like, you’re speaking my language, and she had great energy. So she someone from but again, you know, I know a lot of people who couldn’t do that method. I can’t. I was like, Well, I was thinking today, I have this awesome coat hanger, you know, a coat tree to put on my coach. Do I love it? Well, no. Does it bring me joy? I don’t know if I’d say that. But boy, do I use it. So you have to find what works best for you. And a mistake that people will make is, oh, everyone’s doing Marie Kondo. I have to jump on and do that. Well, it works for some people, but not everyone. So you have to find what works for you.
Mia Johnson 12:48
How do you deal with really, really sentimental clients?
Julie Coraccio 12:51
Excellent question, because sentimental clutter can be really hard for people to release. First of all, you have to meet people where they are, you know, my mom died a couple months ago. And she after a long illness and my dad, like, let’s go through everything. I’m like, slow your roll Big J, you know, I need some time to deal with this. The first especially if it’s something like that you need to get to a place when you’re ready. I always remind people that our memories are in our hearts. And our head, you know, that can never be taken away from us. The challenge is that people will put that memory onto the object. Well, I can’t let that table go. Because it was in my grandmother’s house. My grandmother’s in my heart. She’s in my head. Same with my mom, they haven’t gone anywhere. So that’s the first thing that I really tried to emphasize. And then curate a collection instead of keeping everything you know, can you do cool shadowbox. My mom was a painter. And so she painted a holiday card every year. And so I’m gonna get those all together, I’ve got them all gathered, and I need to take them down and get them framed. So that’s a way that every time I look at that, you know, instead of in the file, where they currently reside, and so can you curate a collection from something and if you get in the habit of understanding, they are not in the object they are here in my head and heart, then that makes it a lot easier.
Mia Johnson 14:08
How did you see the last almost two years of the pandemic affect your clients, affect your work affect people’s attitudes and affect people’s homes?
Julie Coraccio 14:20
You know, it’s really interesting because a crisis really tells us who we are and shows us who we are and comes out. I was very strict. I stopped in person. I do virtual organizing and but I just was like I’m not going to take a chance because for me what if I had it affected anyone? I couldn’t have done that. And so a lot of people really were like, Oh, wow, I have time on my hands. I don’t have that hour commute each way. Every day. I lived in Los Angeles, I get that. So some people really stepped up and said hey, I want to do this other people kind of retreated into their shell and kind of it magnified being overwhelmed. Whereas other people’s like I can do this. I’ve got the time other people just made them freeze even more are affirmations for decluttering support you and releasing clutter at a deeper level. The meditation begins with focus statements on releasing clutter, followed by powerful positive affirmations for healing. And, and with complete can statements. The affirmation concludes with their reaffirming meditate and exercise to fill work clutter was released. Nine clearing clutter affirmations to choose from go to reawaken your brilliance.com to learn more.
Mia Johnson 15:42
And I think another thing about the pandemic was the cardboard boxes, Amazon, I had never ordered from Amazon before the pandemic, I ordered so much stuff from Amazon. What’s your stance on cardboard boxes? I feel like that’s something that just piles up in your house and you think, Okay, I’m going to use this, I’m going to organize with this. I’m going to make a project out of this. What’s your stance on those pesky cardboard boxes?
Julie Coraccio 16:06
That’s a great question. Because we are most of us do order from Amazon. So one, I always tried to get a use before recycle, like reuse it. And so can I give it like we just moved. So I posted, hey, moving boxes come and come and get them. And so that someone else was moving that could get a use. Now they know on Amazon, they have started the option of get it in fewer boxes. So you can now choose that when you’re ordering. I know that there are some companies that now that they and I apologize, I don’t remember the name off the top my head but that you can order in a reusable box. So there are people out there trying to come up with the solution. But you know, it’s a big deal. Because that and I don’t know if I’m guessing I don’t know if Amazon uses recyclable, recycled cardboard. But that I mean, it’s a ton of cardboard. And you know, I think for many of us, the pandemic made us realize, wow, wait, like, look at the smog, you could see in LA for the first time in nature and seeing in other places. We were saying, Whoa, whoa, let’s reset the button here. And you know, so Amazon needs to be less wasteful, in my view.
Mia Johnson 17:11
Talking to Julie Coraccio. She is an organizational and clutter expert. Can you talk about any other environmental focus that you have in your work and any tips and tricks for folks that might be wanting to declutter in a environmentally conscious way?
Julie Coraccio 17:29
Sure. I love to do sustainable organizing, and I’m very passionate about it. So one of the things is well, let’s just take the cardboard boxes for example. You know, I did a little thing drink wine and get organized. So if you go to the wine store, you know those are great if they hold those bottles of wine like I have some to organize Christmas ornaments, we celebrate Christmas, I can color coordinate them because different wine boxes now they’re stored in the house, I don’t want to store cardboard, like in the basement or the garage where with elements. I’m a huge fan of repurposing things. A lot of times you have things around your home that you can repurpose instead of going to The Container Store to buy something. So you can always look to repurpose get in the habit of rethinking everything you know now that were kind of coming out of COVID when you’d go to those oh, let’s go to the big conference and all that junk, they’d give you the little tote which Hey, we’re used to tote but all those charts key things to dust junk the brakes after five seconds start to say no to that. Say No thank you, and then say to people, hey, you know, I really like your booth. But could you you know, have a pencil that I’d use? Or could you have a pen made with recyclable material or whatever or something that is less on the environment. You know what? I’d really not like anything, but maybe you can give me 10 tips, from your area of expertise to starting to rethink repurpose is something that a lot of people can do and recycle. Be aware of the recycling laws in your town, you’d be amazed how many people in the urine, think in an area where people are probably pretty good about it. I unfortunately am not. And that’s one of my things. I’m like, I’m ready to get this town to recycle more. So that’s on my to do list
Mia Johnson 19:11
you’re listening to right now. I’m your host Mia Johnson talking to Julie Coraccio and emotional spiritual mental clutter. Can you touch on those?
Julie Coraccio 19:20
Sure. So mental clutter, think about it monkey mind anxious how many? I mean, COVID is a great example how many of us were anxious, or waking up at night worried. So that’s what I’m talking about mental clutter. When you have a bunch of physical clutter, it affects your mind, you can’t have mental clarity. So what I like to say a lot is the inner effects outer so as you clear your physical space, that’s going to help clear your mental mind. Emotional clutter is things like jealousy. It is you know, how much time are you someone that has a knee jerk reaction and get angry all the time? That’s clutter because that’s preventing you from living your best life and then spiritual clutter things like Like, not being able to forgive, because that harms you instead of the person you’re anger with, or not having gratitude is another big one for me. So those are just a couple of examples.
Mia Johnson 20:10
And what’s your next step? Once you talk to someone about that? What are some practical things that you encourage clients to do to maintain mental emotional or spiritual? Cleanliness? Or I guess not not the right word, but clarity or freedom?
Julie Coraccio 20:31
Freedom’s a great word. Well, obviously, it’s gonna depend on the individual person. But so for instance, your homework assignment might be say no to three people this week, or say no to something that you don’t want to do. You know, let’s is great. We’re talking about the holidays. Now say no to that office party, you don’t want to go to her, you know, say no to a great aunt maples, Christmas crunch pie that you always hate that always get to make her happy. So that would be some examples or for emotional clutter. If you get angry that your mom says, Hey, have you found a boyfriend yet? How can you turn it around and have a different perspective and think, wow, my mom really loves me. And so that’s why she’s asking if I’m in a relationship, right and control your anger and how you view things. Huge fan of having gratitude, you know, we have so much in our lives and so many times we forget that. So doing a daily gratitude practice. And I like to say do when you’re in the shower, or do it right when you wake up or write before you go to bed. If you pair it with something like Oh, I’m in the shower, I’m gonna say three things. Or if I’m stuck in traffic, I’m gonna say three things I’m grateful for you get into the habit of doing that. You tend to do it more?
Mia Johnson 21:44
And what about physical clutter? In terms of follow through once you stop working with folks do you find there’s techniques that really maintain the good habits?
Julie Coraccio 21:54
Great question. One thing that I do is I have their plan like a clutter control plan. So once I get to know someone, oh, you know, I turned my like to use is clutter kryptonite, what makes you weak in the knees? For me, leopard print, leopard print, I gotta have it, so I’m aware of it. Right? So then I said, Okay, you know, take a deep breath already, you know, have a pair leopard print shoes, you’re in good shape. So we’ll talk about their clutter kryptonite, and then come up with a specific plan. So for people in general, I would say, clutter, declutter, like at the end of the week, tidy up your space. I go through everything I own every year and encourage my clients to do so. And once you’ve done a major purge, it will take you no time at all. To go through each room and say, Oh, I don’t need that. And then ask yourself, you know, do you need it? Do you use it? Do you love it? Can you find the information? If books are big thing for people? That’s one of my challenge areas. And so I said, Okay, you get one bookcase? Make it work. And so you know, can I? If it’s been sitting there for a while? Can someone else get better use out of it?
Mia Johnson 22:59
And do you find it’s a lot easier when you’re there with them in person? Or have is it been just as effective virtually?
Julie Coraccio 23:07
It really depends on the person. Because like we’re talking now, if I were to have you move your camera around, and your space looks great, by the way, you know, then I could see okay, this that. Let me ask you some questions. That’s where we’re getting stuck? Absolutely.
Mia Johnson 23:22
And how do you deal with people who are overzealous in their goals? Especially like around the New Year? I feel like people, I’m going to change everything in my life, everything’s going to be perfect. How do you again, keep it practical?
Julie Coraccio 23:39
Great question. I always encourage people not to concentrate on more than three items. Because we just can’t. And then because a lot of times what happens, we’re all excited in the new year. And by February, it’s faded. And what I when I was younger, just right, I make this pretty poster board with all these things I was going to change and all these things I could do. And I’m like we’re at rare, you know, a couple of weeks it had ended. So that’s when I was like, okay, just concentrate on a couple things. And then you know, life happened. My mother was ill and I’ve always said family was my priority and put my money where my mouth was. Okay, so business is going to just have to the lesson, do some virtual stuff, you know, COVID said, maybe so let’s publish some books, you know, like, let’s be flexible, and what else can we do? And so sometimes, you know, life happens and you just have to go with the flow. But then you know, I if someone’s like, super strict about it, or if it’s a perfectionism, then we’re going to have some conversations around that what’s really being perfect about what are we trying to control here? So that’s what I mean by digging a little deeper.
Mia Johnson 24:39
And where can people find your resources, your website, your services, all that good stuff,
Julie Coraccio 24:46
at reawaken your brilliance, calm.
Mia Johnson 24:50
And sounds like you’re doing virtual things. So if someone out in West Berlin is interested in that they can check it out. And finally, in our last few minutes, wanted to ask you both What’s most challenging about your work and also what you find most fulfilling about your work?
Julie Coraccio 25:05
I’ll do the easy one. First, what I find most fulfilling is being a support. And seeing people have those aha moments seeing them reawaken their brilliance, seeing them share their gifts with the world, seeing them get more confident, you know, when people bloom, and then they see oh, my gosh, all this clutter has been weighing me down. And I had no idea. No idea. say probably the most challenging thing for me, would be when people are resistant to change, but one thing I’ve personally done is, I believe in setting intentions. And so what has happened is I have people who are ready to do the work. And if there’s no judgment, if someone isn’t it, just oh, you know, I you can do it, I believe in you. And when when someone stops cold, that’s, I think that’s just makes me sad, because you’re awesome, and you have these gifts, let’s get going.
Mia Johnson 25:59
And if somebody was to look around their house today, or their life or their mind or their heart, what’s a good place for someone to start? If they are ready for change?
Julie Coraccio 26:10
They are ready for change. So I would say, ask yourself, is there something driving you nuts? Like you can’t sleep? Because your beds full of clutter? Or do you have a deadline for something so you’re going to have the the garage cabinets put in in January? Well, we might want to get the garage to cluttered or you know, if you’re not paying your bills on time, get in that office, wherever you’re paying your bills and get that decluttered and organized. Ask yourself a couple things. And that’s where you can start. I would say for mental have some kind of mindfulness practice. You know, it can be anything for some people to mowing the lawn is meditative for spiritual, have a gratitude practice. Start working on forgiveness, because a lot of us have resentment. And then I’d say emotionally just be aware, you know, where do you have always have the same reaction? Are you always getting sad? Are you always getting angry? And start to do some digging on that?
Mia Johnson 27:05
And anything else that you’re excited about in your work going into 2022?
Julie Coraccio 27:11
Yes, I am starting a group coaching on Patreon I’ve read on that which I’m super excited and making it affordable. I’m doing with the California organizer keeping it real classes for those of us who have lives but know that organizing and decluttering would help my 15th book is coming out which is a 21 day challenge for if you’re really overwhelmed baby steps to declutter your life. Great. Well,
Mia Johnson 27:35
thank you so much. We’ve been talking to Julie Coraccio. And that website again, people want to check
Julie Coraccio 27:42
it out. reawaken your brilliance calm,
Mia Johnson 27:45
right you’ve been listening to right now I’m your host Maria Johnson, and would love to visit West Virginia someday I’ve never been there. So thank you so much for making the time this morning to join us and give us some tips going into the holiday and into the new year.
Julie Coraccio 27:59
Thanks so much for having me shaded Julie. Keep subscribe because you never know when I’m going to pop on and have bonus episodes or interview people or do special episodes. Clear Your Clutter inside now it’s still gonna keep on rolling. wishing you all a wonderful holiday season, no matter what you celebrate and may you experience the magic. Clearing your clutter allows you to share your gifts with the world. Get your Free Self Assessment to discover your clutter priority at reawaken your brilliance.com if you’ve enjoyed Clear Your Clutter inside now, please rate review and share us
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